[IYRPsupportgroup] Information about IYRP for pastoralist organisations - call for letters of support/commitment & visual materials for website

Wed Sep 2 06:47:27 MST 2020

The problem for such a glossary is, it would only apply for
English-speaking countries, right? Or how would we deal with the diversity
e.g. in Spanish-speaking countries? If there is a way, we could do a
compilation of terms as well as their usage.

El mié., 2 sept. 2020 a las 15:28, Dana Kelly (<d.kelly at uq.edu.au>)
escribió:

> Dear Jurgen and Ann,
>
> Thanks Jurgen for raising this issue. I agree with Ann that many terms are
> used for pastoralists around the world. As David Phelps said, pastoralists
> is really only used in one state in Australia, we also use grazier and
> farmer; with farmer probably the most commonly used term. Of course, in
> Australia pastoralists do not tend to move their livestock as a regular
> activity.
>
> I would really appreciate hearing what terms other countries use for
> pastoralists, and how each country defines these peoples who are mobile and
> move around with their livestock.
>
> Comments would be very helpful in helping define this term in the
> socio-institutional glossary that we are working on!
>
> Best regards
> Dana
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* IYRPsupportgroup <iyrpsupportgroup-bounces at list.cals.arizona.edu>
> on behalf of Ann Waters-Bayer <waters-bayer at web.de>
> *Sent:* 02 September 2020 17:46
> *To:* Jurgen Hoth <jurgenhoth1521 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* iyrpsupportgroup at list.cals.arizona.edu <
> iyrpsupportgroup at list.cals.arizona.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [IYRPsupportgroup] Information about IYRP for pastoralist
> organisations - call for letters of support/commitment & visual materials
> for website
>
> Many thanks for this, Jürgen!
>
> The word “pastoralist” as defined in the box (“people who – as their
> primary source of living – raise livestock, wild or semi-domesticated
> animals on plants that grow naturally, often called rangelands and
> grasslands”) includes all the different types of pastoralists in different
> countries which, in English, may also be known as “ranchers” (USA)
> or “graziers” (Australia). Indeed, the Australians also use the term
> pastoralist - see wikipedia referring to Australia "The owner of a
> station is called a pastoralist or a grazier (which corresponds to the
> North American term "rancher"). Some people also use the word “herder”,
> who would also be regarded as part of the pastoralist group, but this word
> refers - strictly speaking - to the people actually doing the herding
> (family members or hired) and would not include the other members of
> pastoralist families who take on other tasks in the production and
> livelihood system. Although, of course, the word can be defined
> differently, but then it should be defined explicitly when used.
>
> Actually, we have been doing a lot of thinking about this: a group of us
> is currently working on a glossary of “people” terms related to rangelands
> and pastoralism. We should hurry up and get it out!
>
> This mail is going to the entire ISG, and I am curious to see what
> reactions there are, as this will help us in finalising the glossary.
>
> And I would be very interested to know what the difference is, in Mexico,
> between a “pastoralist” and a “rancher” (in the equivalent Spanish terms).
>
> Cheers
> Ann
>
> On 1 Sep 2020, at 23:21 PM, Jurgen Hoth <jurgenhoth1521 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Ann and all,
>
> Please find the version translated into Spanish.
>
> Please note, as much in English as in Spanish and very likely in all other
> languages, I would much recommend to explicitly acknowledge “ranchers”.  In
> Mexico, for instance, pastoralists presence and impact at the grassland
> ecosystem level is negligible compared to the role of ranchers, small and
> large.
>
> Most certainly, only seeing “pastoralists” may unnecessarily hinder the
> participation of such an important group as are the*ranchers* of the
> world.
>
> Food for thought.
>
> Best,
>
> Jürgen
>
> P.S, Can you please send me the figure of the last page in PPT so that I
> can translate it using the same layout? Thank you.
>
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>
>
>
> *From: *IYRPsupportgroup <iyrpsupportgroup-bounces at list.cals.arizona.edu>
> on behalf of Ann Waters-Bayer <waters-bayer at web.de>
> *Date: *Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 4:17 PM
> *To: *"Ferrari, Serena (NSAG)" <Serena.Ferrari at fao.org>
> *Cc: *"iyrpsupportgroup at list.cals.arizona.edu" <
> iyrpsupportgroup at list.cals.arizona.edu>
> *Subject: *Re: [IYRPsupportgroup] Information about IYRP for pastoralist
> organisations - call for letters of support/commitment & visual materials
> for website
>
> Thanks ever so much for the corrections, Serena! I did not have a chance
> to have the text checked by a native French speaker.
>
> I hope that others in the ISG can make translations into Spanish, Arabic,
> Chinese etc. If any of you do, please share the translations with us all!
>
> Cheers,
> Ann
>
>
>
> On 1 Sep 2020, at 22:13 PM, Ferrari, Serena (NSAG) <Serena.Ferrari at fao.org>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Ann,
>
> Many thanks for this document, it’s very well written. We are going to
> disseminating through the PKH subscribers’ group.
> You can find herewith the document in French with some – small –
> corrections.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Serena
>
> Serena Ferrari
> Pastoralist Knowledge Hub
> Animal Production and Health Division
> Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations
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>
>
> *De :* IYRPsupportgroup <iyrpsupportgroup-bounces at list.cals.arizona.edu> *De
> la part de* Ann Waters-Bayer
> *Envoyé :* mardi 1 septembre 2020 09:59
> *À :* iyrpsupportgroup at list.cals.arizona.edu
> *Objet :* [IYRPsupportgroup] Information about IYRP for pastoralist
> organisations - call for letters of support/commitment & visual materials
> for website
> *Importance :* Haute
>
> Dear all,
>
> Attached please find a 3-pager with current information about the IYRP -
> drafted specifically for sharing with pastoralist organisations and with
> organisations working directly with pastoralists at the grassroots. I also
> tried to make a French translation (which comes to 4 pages). I have
> deliberately not made a pdf out of this, as the text is meant to be adapted
> for different areas and in different languages (and please correct the
> French before sending it on to French speakers!).
>
> Two members of the ISG - Greg Perrier and Fernando Garcia-Dory - had
> pointed out that the type of information we had thus far as PR materials
> did not make very clear to pastoralists what they could gain from
> supporting and being involved in an IYRP. Therefore, with their help, I put
> this together.
>
> Please share the text - adapted as need be - with pastoralist
> organisations in your networks - and encourage them to:
>
>    - send to the FAO COAG Secretariat their letters of support for the
>    IYRP or even commitment to contributing to the IYRP (we can send examples,
>    if you want)
>    - send visual materials about pastoralism (videoclips, photos etc) for
>    the online “website-booth” that we are setting up because the meeting of
>    the COAG will be virtual, so we cannot have a physical booth and events in
>    Rome during the week of the meeting - please send the materials to Barbara
>    Hutchinson (BarbaraH at cals.arizona.edu) or me
>    - join the regional groups that are being set up to prepare for the
>    IYRP (in the hopes that it will be approved by the COAG on 2 October) -
>    Maryam Niamir (mniafull2 at gmail.com) can provide more information about
>    these groups.
>
>
> The COAG Secretariat has already received several letters of support or
> commitment, including from some pastoralist organisations and networks in
> Africa, CentralAsia, Europe, the Middle East and South America, but more
> letters would give more weight to the request by the Mongolian Government
> that an IYRP be designated.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Ann
>
>
>
> *Dr Ann Waters-Bayer*
> *Agrecol Association for AgriCulture & Ecology*
> *Coalition of European Lobbies for Eastern African Pastoralism (CELEP)*
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> *S: ann-waters*
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> <http://www.celep.info/>*
>
>
>
>
>
> <IYRP informations pour les organisations pastorales 01-09-20.docx>
>
>
> <2020 08 31 IYRP information for pastoralist organisations SP-1.docx>
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