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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Discussion of
Research Administrators' Issues [mailto:RAMTALK@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Karen Smith<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:15
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> RAMTALK@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Grants.gov...the saga
continues!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Grants.gov has been completely unforgiving this past
week.   With the NIH March 5 deadline, we had a new lesson taught to
us.    When we submit the application, we receive a confirmation
notice.   Last week, when we pressed submit, we received an error
that said timed out or nothing done.   To most of us, this would mean
that the application was not accepted by the system.   So, we would
submit the application again.  In some cases, it took 12-15 times before
we received a confirmation screen.   The next day, we looked for the
NIH applications in Commons to realize that the applications had indeed been
accepted by the Commons system all 12-15 times!   </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The next day, we tried to submit another application
twice.   We received the timed out error.   We waited until
the next day to see if the application was received by Commons.  The
application was not received by the system.  </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The advice we received from the help desk was to wait 20
minutes after the timed out error.  If no confirmation screen appears, we
were to resubmit the application.   The error messages that we are
receiving from grants.gov are inconsistent.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Another Grants.gov story from last week pertains to NSF, we
submitted an application to NSF on February 25, 2009.   The
application was rejected with errors by grants.gov.  Grants.gov could not
determine the origin of the error.  I spoke to NSF, they recommended that
the application be submitted through Fastlane.   The grants.gov
helpdesk explained that the application would not move forward.   On
March 4, 2009, the application that was submitted through grants.gov entered
NSF Fastlane.   This created a duplicate submission that had to be
rejected in the NSF Fastlane system.    If you intend to submit
an application to the National Science Foundation, please use the Fastlane
system to submit the application.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Please keep the 3 day proposal policy in mind when
submitting applications to us.  The only reason we were able to submit all
of the applications and deal with the problems is because we received a bulk of
the applications at least 3 days before the deadline.  We are doing our
best to work with all of the systems, we need your help to be able to
continue.    </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Please complete the application package before sending it to
us.   We will not do preliminary review of application
packages.   Please fax the PRS, abstract, budget and budget
justification for our review prior to sending the application package.  </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face="Arial Baltic"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Baltic"'>Karen Smith<br>
Senior Sponsored  Projects Administrator, <st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Preaward</span></font></st1:PlaceName><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Baltic"'>Sponsored</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName>Projects</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceName>Services</span></st1:PlaceName></font><font face="Arial Baltic"><span
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</span></font><font size=2 face="Arial Baltic"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial Baltic"'><st1:PlaceType>University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
of <st1:State><st1:place>Arizona</span></st1:place></st1:State></font><font
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</span></font><font size=2 face="Arial Baltic"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial Baltic"'>(520)626-6127<br>
</span></font><font face="Arial Baltic"><span style='font-family:"Arial Baltic"'><a
href="http://www.sps.arizona.edu/"><font size=2 color=purple><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:purple'>http://www.sps.arizona.edu</span></font></a><br>
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