<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Further to the discussion late last year about planting trees in natural pastureland, take a look at this film by the South African ecologist William Bond:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class=""><i class="">The untold story of grasses</i></b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAoVZoZpqro&list=TLGGth-BQgYt-lAzMDA2MjAyMQ" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAoVZoZpqro&list=TLGGth-BQgYt-lAzMDA2MjAyMQ</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2021, 6:44 min.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Highly recommended!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">And i fear that I forgot to forward this mail (below) from Said Fagouri as a contribution to the discussion, probably because I was waiting for more inputs. Sorry!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Once again, like last year, if there is feedback on this topic, I will collect the comments and send several in one mail so that your inboxes do not get too full. But it is an important discussion - a truly burning question.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Ann</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 20 Nov 2021, at 21:48 PM, Fagouri Said <<a href="mailto:fagouris@gmail.com" class="">fagouris@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">( Français et Anglais par la suite )</div>Chers tous, planter dans les pâturages, je vous raconte l’expérience du Maroc:<div class="">Les techniques de régénération pour l’amélioration pastorales adoptées sont nombreuses:</div><div class="">1- Labour et semis d’agroperum, ça était une catastrophe naturelle, on a labouré des pâturages où il y’avait l’armoise en état de dégradation.</div><div class="">2- Labour et semis de medicagos snails dans des pâturages ou pousser les medicagos sp, les résultats n’étaient pas à la hauteur des dépenses </div><div class="">3- Labour et semis de medicagos avec plantations d’arbustes fourragers, atriplexes et acacia à raison de 500 arbustes par Ha, ça était une vraie réussite, les arbustes fourragers jouaient le rôle de gardien pendant 3 ans de mise en défens</div><div class="">4- Plantation d’atriplexe à raison de 1100 Arbustes à l’Ha, les résultats sont encourageants dans les régions où il pleut plus de 300 mm/ an , les communautés continuent l’extension des plantations, la région est située pas loin d’une réserve naturelle où il y’a des gazelles, ce qui fait on voit de temps en temps des groupes de gazelles dans les pâturages.</div><div class="">Mais dans les zones où la pluviométrie est inférieure à 200 mm, les résultats ne sont pas à la hauteur des investissements, au bout de quelques années, il ne reste plus rien.</div><div class="">5- Mise en défens sans travaux, ni plantations, ni labour, juste le gardiennage avec des indemnités de mise en défens, les résultats sont très encourageants, les pâturages se régénèrent tous seuls, évidemment dès le retour des troupeaux les pâturages se dégradent à cause du surpâturage. </div><div class="">En conclusion et à mon avis, planter des arbres dans pâturages est grosse erreur, qui dit planter dit mise en défens pendant plusieurs années, les pâturages ne sont pas des forêts, on va soustraire, les surfaces plantés des pâturages, les éleveurs seront lésés.</div><div class="">Reste à savoir aussi si la pluviométrie est suffisante pour la survie et le développement des arbres.<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dear all, planting in the pastures, I tell you the experience of Morocco:</div><div class=""> The regeneration techniques for pastoral improvement adopted are numerous:</div><div class=""> 1- Plowing and sowing agroperum, it was a natural disaster, we plowed pastures where there was mugwort in a state of degradation.</div><div class=""> 2- Plowing and sowing medicagos snails in pastures or pushing medicagos sp, the results were not up to the expense</div><div class=""> 3- Plowing and sowing of medicagos with plantations of fodder shrubs, atriplexes and acacia at the rate of 500 shrubs per Ha, it was a real success, the fodder shrubs played the role of guardian for 3 years of defenses</div><div class=""> 4- Plantation of atriplex at the rate of 1100 Shrubs per Ha, the results are encouraging in regions where it rains more than 300 mm / year, the communities continue to extend the plantations, the region is located not far from a nature reserve where there are gazelles, which means that we occasionally see groups of gazelles in the pastures.</div><div class=""> But in areas where the rainfall is less than 200 mm, the results are not up to the investment, after a few years, there is nothing left.</div><div class=""> 5- Defensing without work, planting or plowing, just guarding with compensation for defending, the results are very encouraging, the pastures regenerate on their own, obviously as soon as the herds return, the pastures deteriorate due to overgrazing.</div><div class=""> In conclusion and in my opinion, planting trees in pastures is a big mistake, which says planting means defending for several years, pastures are not forests, we will subtract, areas planted from pastures, breeders will be harmed.</div><div class=""> It also remains to be seen whether the rainfall is sufficient for the survival and development of the trees.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Dr Fagouri Said <div class="">+212661751752<div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Le 20 nov. 2021 à 17:15, Ann Waters-Bayer <<a href="mailto:waters-bayer@web.de" class="">waters-bayer@web.de</a>> a écrit :</blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><!--StartFragment--><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin" class="">Dear all,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin" class="">We
have all seen some mails in this listserv about planting trees in Mongolia.
However, because Barbara, Maryam and I (who moderate this listserv) don’t want
to have too much traffic on it (we promised people who signed up that they
wouldn’t receive many mails via this list), we collected the mails about
tree-planting and have put them all in this mail, from first to last mail. I
hope I caught them all.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt;" class="">The prospects of planting trees in rangelands has
generated a good discussion and highlights one of the many reasons why we need
the IYRP to be designated so that more work can be done to fill knowledge gaps
and raise awareness about rangelands and pastoralism. The Government of
Mongolia’s leadership in this regard has been instrumental in achieving great
progress in bringing the IYRP proposal through the FAO approval process and now
to the UN General Assembly.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin" class="">An
international discussion like this one on the IYRP Support Group listserv
allows countries to learn from each other. If any of you would like to send
more contributions to this discussion about planting trees in rangelands,
please go ahead – and we will once again collect several contributions and put
them all into one mail. We hope this will allow discussion to continue but
without overloading people’s mailboxes.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin" class="">Cheers,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin" class="">Ann<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 251, 0);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class=""> Flintan, Fiona (ILRI) <<a href="mailto:F.Flintan@cgiar.org" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">F.Flintan@cgiar.org</span></a>><o:p class=""></o:p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class=""> Sunday, November 7, 2021 9:57 PM<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">To:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class=""> <a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a> <<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a>><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class=""> [IYRPsupportgroup] President of Mongolia commits to planting a
billion trees by 2030<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">I am wondering where this tree planting will take place: <a href="https://montsame.mn/en/read/279993" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">https://montsame.mn/en/read/279993</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Fiona Flintan <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Senior Scientist-Rangelands and Pastoralism, ILRI (International
Livestock Research Institute) (hosted at IFAD Rome)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Italy and WhatsApp/Telegram: +39-3496462017 Ethiopia:
+251-921777402; <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Skype: fiona.flintan <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Twitter: @rangelands_glbl<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Instagram: @rangelands_glbl<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Helvetica" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 251, 0);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">Jurgen Hoth <<a href="mailto:jurgenhoth1521@gmail.com" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">jurgenhoth1521@gmail.com</span></a>><o:p class=""></o:p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">Subject: Re:
President of Mongolia commits to planting a billion trees by 2030</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">Date: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">8 November 2021 at 22:45:19 PM CET<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">To: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">"Flintan, Fiona (ILRI)" <<a href="mailto:F.Flintan@cgiar.org" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">F.Flintan@cgiar.org</span></a>>,
"<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a>"
<<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a>><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">Thank you Fiona.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">That is not good news. We need to
help make sexy planting grass.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">Here is an initial effort we did with
the main Mexican Airline, AeroMéxico:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class=""><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCHaHO5n920&fbclid=IwAR3Ry7LVQyignv63pfVob9eudNq3R0k2E7_CyLXgjkZLvfVlLnPVavV6hcY" class=""><span style="mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:windowtext" class="">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCHaHO5n920&fbclid=IwAR3Ry7LVQyignv63pfVob9eudNq3R0k2E7_CyLXgjkZLvfVlLnPVavV6hcY</span></a><a name="_Toc534708989" class=""></a><a name="_Toc534709134" class=""></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">Best,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">Jürgen<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 251, 0);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class="">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class="">"Olson, Kirk" <<a href="mailto:kolson@wcs.org" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">kolson@wcs.org</span></a>><o:p class=""></o:p></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class="">Subject: Re:
President of Mongolia commits to planting a billion trees by 2030</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class="">Date: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class="">9 November 2021 at 4:50:17 AM CET<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class="">To: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class="">"Flintan, Fiona (ILRI)" <<a href="mailto:F.Flintan@cgiar.org" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">F.Flintan@cgiar.org</span></a>>,
"<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a>"
<<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a>><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">Hopefully
it won't take place at all. Someone should provide better advice to
politicians around tree planting in arid rangelands and the negative effects
this has.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">KO<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; background-color: rgb(255, 251, 0);" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 251, 0);" class=""> Ariell Ahearn Ligham <<a href="mailto:ariell.ahearn@ouce.ox.ac.uk" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">ariell.ahearn@ouce.ox.ac.uk</span></a>><br class=""></span>
<b class="">Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 9, 2021 10:51:25 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Flintan, Fiona (ILRI) <<a href="mailto:F.Flintan@cgiar.org" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">F.Flintan@cgiar.org</span></a>>; <a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a> <<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [IYRPsupportgroup] President of Mongolia commits to
planting a billion trees by 2030<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class="">It
reminds me of Stalin's great plan for the 'transformation of nature' - also an
enormous afforestation campaign to keep the steppe at bay. It was fraught with
racist ideas about steppe landscapes, 'drying winds' from Asia and was obsessed
with expanding agricultural cultivation into the grasslands. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class="">A
great article on this topic: Brain, Stephen. "The great Stalin plan for
the transformation of nature." <i class="">Environmental History</i> 15.4
(2010): 670-700.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class="">I
personally think planting a billion trees in Mongolia is a huge waste of time and
money. Better to shut down the coal mines if you really want to make a
positive impact for the environment and society. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; background-color: rgb(255, 251, 0);" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 251, 0);" class=""> Enkh-Amgalan Tseelei <<a href="mailto:enkhamgalan@greengold.mn" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">enkhamgalan@greengold.mn</span></a>><br class=""></span>
<b class="">Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 9, 2021 9:19 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Ariell Ahearn Ligham <<a href="mailto:ariell.ahearn@ouce.ox.ac.uk" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">ariell.ahearn@ouce.ox.ac.uk</span></a>>;
Flintan, Fiona (ILRI) <<a href="mailto:F.Flintan@cgiar.org" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">F.Flintan@cgiar.org</span></a>>; <a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a> <<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [IYRPsupportgroup] President of Mongolia commits to
planting a billion trees by 2030<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class="">Hi,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class="">This
is even worse…<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial" class=""><a href="https://montsame.mn/en/read/279993?fbclid=IwAR2VwOfwffIrD1KPzfpGVTzPy48OVKJMMqwfWQVMbZJpqjIbRcMneCYKwRY" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">UNCCD expresses readiness to support President’s
initiative (montsame.mn)</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; background-color: rgb(255, 251, 0);" class="">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 251, 0);" class="">Tungaa
SG <<a href="mailto:tungaa.sg@gmail.com" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">tungaa.sg@gmail.com</span></a>><br class=""></span>
<b class="">Date: </b>Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 4:29 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>Ariell Ahearn Ligham <<a href="mailto:ariell.ahearn@ouce.ox.ac.uk" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">ariell.ahearn@ouce.ox.ac.uk</span></a>>,
"Flintan, Fiona (ILRI)" <<a href="mailto:F.Flintan@cgiar.org" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">F.Flintan@cgiar.org</span></a>>, "<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a>"
<<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [IYRPsupportgroup] President of Mongolia commits to
planting a billion trees by 2030<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="">Dear Ariell,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
"Times New Roman"" class="">Indeed this movement of planting<b class=""> Billion trees </b>is
going in a controversial manner. The danger is growing trees in the
natural forest have been taken away damaging the roots/soil and transplanted
to urban areas or peri-urban steppe areas where there was no forest
before. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
"Times New Roman"" class="">Large areas of steppes and grasslands have been dug out to
plant trees. People are protesting against such an approach.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
"Times New Roman"" class="">Tungaa<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 251, 0);" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"" class="">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Helvetica Neue"" class="">Carolyn Baldwin <<a href="mailto:carolbaldwin@ksu.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">carolbaldwin@ksu.edu</span></a>></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"" class="">Subject: [IYRPsupportgroup] Result of planting trees in
grasslands</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"" class="">Date: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Helvetica Neue"" class="">9 November 2021 at 16:36:05 PM CET<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
"Helvetica Neue"" class="">To: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Helvetica Neue"" class="">Enkh-Amgalan Tseelei <<a href="mailto:enkhamgalan@greengold.mn" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">enkhamgalan@greengold.mn</span></a>>,
Ariell Ahearn Ligham <<a href="mailto:ariell.ahearn@ouce.ox.ac.uk" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">ariell.ahearn@ouce.ox.ac.uk</span></a>>,
"Flintan, Fiona (ILRI)" <<a href="mailto:F.Flintan@cgiar.org" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">F.Flintan@cgiar.org</span></a>>, "<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a>"
<<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</span></a>><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">In the North American Great Plains, we have experience of 100 years or
more of planting trees in native rangelands and a lack of tree-removing
prescribed burning due to a forestry bias. The result isn't good for
rangelands, as detailed in this new publication.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Reducing woody encroachment in grasslands: A guide for understanding
risk and vulnerability<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Twidwell et al. <a href="https://t.e2ma.net/click/xwr0qg/xsk02po/13nhso" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">https://t.e2ma.net/click/xwr0qg/xsk02po/13nhso</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:6.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Carol<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:10.0pt;mso-pagination:none;mso-layout-grid-align:
none;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Carol Baldwin, Ph.D.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Agriculture, Natural Resources, and Community Vitality<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
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Calibri" class="">Umberger 103, <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/1612+Claflin+Road?entry=gmail&source=g" class=""><span style="color:windowtext" class="">1612 Claflin Road</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
Calibri" class="">Kansas State University<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
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mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
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