<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Dear Francesca and All<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"> after reading your message, I immediately had to read up on Foggia and found this fascinating recent article in National Geographic about the tratturi: <a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2020/05/what-you-learn-when-you-follow-the-herd-in-italy-feature/">https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2020/05/what-you-learn-when-you-follow-the-herd-in-italy-feature/</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Our plan for decentralized coordinated drives through cities would certainly make headlines!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Ilse<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 03:09, Francesca Pasetti <<a href="mailto:fpasettib@gmail.com">fpasettib@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Dear Fiona,<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thank you for your suggestion concerning doing something similar in Rome, as it has been done in Madrid since 1990: transhumance passing through the capital using traditional droves.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thank you Pablo, for your clarification: in fact Nicola di Niro and myself are working on transhumance in Italy, and the recuperation of italian droves (italian name: tratturi).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">As you suppose, Fiona, through Rome there is an ancient drove, which was bringing trashuming sheep from Vatican city to the Abruzzo mountains. This drove was passing in a part of Rome actually called EUR.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">At that time the Region that today is called Abbruzzo, was belonging to the Vatican State (Which included the regions today called Abbruzzo and Lazio).<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Three years ago it was tried to realise again this transhumance passing through the EUR, in Rome, but it has not been possible because the shepherds did not agree with the conditions they were offered to realise it. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">For this year 2020 it was foreseen to pass with transhuming sheep on the ancient transhumance drove which passes through the city of Foggia, but because of the actual COVID situation, it could not be realized. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Foggia was in ancient times the most important drove centre, a transhuming crossroad, of South Italy. In fact in Foggia there is actually the most important italian library with documents concerning transhumance, traditional animal breeding, and ancient legislation about droves.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Therefore it is important also to allow again transhuming animals to use these droves crossing Foggia.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">There is a great difference between the possibility to organise a trashumance passing through a city in Spain and in Italy: Spain already has a very ancient (created in 1273, and renewed/actualised in 1995) current law protecting its 125.000 km of doves. Italy has not.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Like in Spain, also in Italy droves are used by transhuming animals since prehistory (Therefore in both countries you have many megalithic stones of the prehistoric shepherds).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">In Italy the first registered protection of droves was a law of Theodosio, in the year 400. Shepherds and their flocks were protected up to Napoleon, who in 1806 made a law privileging farmers, and up to today, there has never again been realised any law protecting shepherds. From then onwards in Italy transhumance began to reduce drastically everywhere.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Therefore to pass with transhuming animals through villages and cities in Spain is actually almost easy, in Italy it is very difficult to organise.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Actually the still few transhuming shepherds in Italy have it each year more difficult to realise their transhumance, which has been done for centuries.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">The nomination of Transhumance as UNESCO World Heritage last december 2019, and now the IYRP are both very important also for Italian shepherds: Worldwide the protection of shepherds rights, as well as the acknowledgment of policy makers (and general population) about the importance of pastoralism is of vital importance.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><div class="gmail_default">We were already thinking to suggest again Rome for a transhuming flock passing through the city the next years: with the support of the organisation of IYRP and FAO, it will be certainly easier to realise it for 2021</div><div class="gmail_default"></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Warm regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Francesca</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:small"><font color="#000000">Francesca Pasetti Bombardella PhD</font></div><div style="font-size:small">ASviR-MoliGal - Italia</div><div style="font-size:small">Tel: 0039 380 6337 111<br></div><div style="font-size:small"><font color="#000000">Tel: 0049-1520 840 4438 </font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span></div><div style="font-size:small"><font color="#000000">Email: <a href="mailto:fpasettib@gmail.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">fpasettib@gmail.com</a></font></div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><div><font color="#000000"><br><br></font></div></div></div></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>De: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Pablo Manzano Baena</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:pablo.manzano.baena@gmail.com" target="_blank">pablo.manzano.baena@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: mar., 20 oct. 2020 a las 10:00<br>Subject: Re: [IYRPsupportgroup] [pastoralist-hub] A wonderful video from Asociación Trashumancia y Naturaleza<br>To: Flintan, Fiona (ILRI) <<a href="mailto:F.Flintan@cgiar.org" target="_blank">F.Flintan@cgiar.org</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" target="_blank">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" target="_blank">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</a>>, Ganbayar G <<a href="mailto:rome2@mfa.gov.mn" target="_blank">rome2@mfa.gov.mn</a>>, Francesca Pasetti Bombardella <<a href="mailto:fpasettib@gmail.com" target="_blank">fpasettib@gmail.com</a>>, Nicola Di Niro <<a href="mailto:nicoldin29@gmail.com" target="_blank">nicoldin29@gmail.com</a>><br></div><br><br><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Fiona.</div><div>Regarding mobile pastoralism in Italy, there are people actually working on that. I think Francesca Pasetti is in the group but I CC her just in case - she works with Nicola di Niro (CC'd also) in recovering Italian tratturi.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mar., 20 oct. 2020 a las 9:30, Flintan, Fiona (ILRI) (<<a href="mailto:F.Flintan@cgiar.org" target="_blank">F.Flintan@cgiar.org</a>>) escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>A wonderful video from Asociación Trashumancia y Naturaleza: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vygf3u3HCzE" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vygf3u3HCzE</a>
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<div>In honor of all Transhumance Festivals that TyN has been organizing for 27 years in Madrid, this past weekend they have presented a short video-documentary "Transhumance: walking and sowing for a sustainable future" (with English subtitles) </div>
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<div>Full programme and more more amazing videos and photos during this week on Twitter
<a href="https://twitter.com/Trashumanc.../status/1318101429349982208" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Trashumanc.../status/1318101429349982208</a> </div>
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<div>In case you want to join the online activities on 24 and 25 October (workshops on cooking, wool...) (and practice your Spanish) just use the link to youtube channel
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