<div dir="ltr">Hello everyone. Its good to review again our definitions. This issue will come up many times as we go forward and each time we need to be both inclusive and extensive! <div><br></div><div>I recall that when we discussed this back in 2016 (and again in 2018), we adopted the following definition of "pastoralist" which then was inserted in the IYRP Open Flyer:</div><div><br></div><div>"<i>Pastoralists are people who – as their primary source of livelihood – raise livestock, wild or semi-domesticated animals on rangelands in production systems that are extensive in terms of land use and usually involve some degree of animal mobility. Adapted from: Pastoralism and the Green Economy, 2014 (<a href="http://cmsdata.iucn.org/downloads/wisp_green_economy_book.pdf)">http://cmsdata.iucn.org/downloads/wisp_green_economy_book.pdf)</a>."</i></div><div><br></div><div>I do agree that we need to add all the synonyms and metonyms from around the world whenever possible., and to localize it when needed. When Kathrine and I worked on the GAP Analysis, we found many such terms: Ranchers, graziers, herders, shepherds, transhumants, nomads, animal farmers, rancheros, pasteurs, etc. </div><div><br></div><div>It would be really good to pull together a <u>long</u> list of these synonyms and metonyms - in all relevant languages.</div><div><br></div><div>Dr. Maryam Niamir-Fuller</div><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Vice Chair ISG</div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 7:11 PM Jurgen Hoth <<a href="mailto:jurgenhoth1521@gmail.com">jurgenhoth1521@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<span style="font-size:11pt;color:windowtext">As Jim mentions, our challenge is to produce a text where its key terms and concepts are
</span><span style="font-size:11pt">well understood without the need of considerable explanation. Considering this</span><span style="font-size:11pt;color:windowtext">, I wonder if the editorial group may want to use a more all-encompassing sentence. like
the one we already used in our <b>“</b><a href="http://vsf-international.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/The-Cancun-Statement-Endorsed-22Dec2016.pdf" target="_blank">Cancun Statement”</a><b>
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<p style="margin-left:36pt">“<i>Recognising that </i>more than 500 million people across the globe identify themselves as pastoralists – such as nomads, transhumants, herders
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<li>Pablo, thank you for your comments. “Tierras de pastoreo” is indeed fine and also used widely in Mx. However, any type of vegetation is used as, and is therefore considered “grazing lands”; hence, I
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<p style="margin-left:18pt">By the way, I also very much liked Hossein Badripour´s all-encompassing definition of pastoralists and would like to suggest to the editorial team to consider weaving it into the main body of the text:
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<p style="margin-left:36pt">“Pastoralists are those who rear livestock and their flocks, and are dependent mainly ( if not completely ) relying on range forage.”
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<span style="font-size:11pt">Finally, Dana, I salute the much-needed glossary effort. It may be useful to know that together with colleagues from Canada the US and Mexico in 2012 we prepared for NAFTA´s Commission for Environmental Cooperation an English/Spanish
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Hoth, J. et al. 2012. <i>Grasslands Glossary. </i>Commission for Environmental Cooperation, Montreal, Canada.
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 9:47 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Dana Kelly UoQ <<a href="mailto:d.kelly@uq.edu.au" target="_blank">d.kelly@uq.edu.au</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Ann Waters-Bayer <<a href="mailto:waters-bayer@web.de" target="_blank">waters-bayer@web.de</a>>, Jurgen Hoth <<a href="mailto:jurgenhoth1521@gmail.com" target="_blank">jurgenhoth1521@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" target="_blank">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" target="_blank">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [IYRPsupportgroup] Information about IYRP for pastoralist organisations - call for letters of support/commitment & visual materials for website<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Thanks Jurgen for raising this issue. I agree with Ann that many terms are used for pastoralists around the world. As David Phelps said, pastoralists is really only used in one state in Australia,
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iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</a> <<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" target="_blank">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</a>><br>
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grasslands”) includes all the different types of pastoralists in different countries which, in English, may also be known as “ranchers” (USA) or “graziers” (Australia). Indeed, the Australians also use the term pastoralist - see wikipedia referring to Australia
"</span>The owner of a station is called a pastoralist or a grazier (which corresponds to the North American term "rancher").<span style="font-size:12pt"> Some people also use the word “herder”, who would also be regarded as part of the pastoralist group,
but this word refers - strictly speaking - to the people actually doing the herding (family members or hired) and would not include the other members of pastoralist families who take on other tasks in the production and livelihood system. Although, of course,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Actually, we have been doing a lot of thinking about this: a group of us is currently working on a glossary of “people” terms related to rangelands and pastoralism. We should hurry up and get it out!</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">And I would be very interested to know what the difference is, in Mexico, between a “pastoralist” and a “rancher” (in the equivalent Spanish terms).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 4:17 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"Ferrari, Serena (NSAG)" <<a href="mailto:Serena.Ferrari@fao.org" target="_blank">Serena.Ferrari@fao.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" target="_blank">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" target="_blank">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Many thanks for this document, it’s very well written. We are going to disseminating through the PKH subscribers’ group.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="FR">De :</span></b><span lang="FR"> IYRPsupportgroup <<a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup-bounces@list.cals.arizona.edu" target="_blank">iyrpsupportgroup-bounces@list.cals.arizona.edu</a>> <b>De la part de</b> Ann Waters-Bayer<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> mardi 1 septembre 2020 09:59<br>
<b>À :</b> <a href="mailto:iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu" target="_blank">iyrpsupportgroup@list.cals.arizona.edu</a><br>
<b>Objet :</b> [IYRPsupportgroup] Information about IYRP for pastoralist organisations - call for letters of support/commitment & visual materials for website<br>
<b>Importance :</b> Haute</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Attached please find a 3-pager with current information about the IYRP - drafted specifically for sharing with pastoralist organisations and with organisations working directly with pastoralists at the grassroots. I also tried to make a
French translation (which comes to 4 pages). I have deliberately not made a pdf out of this, as the text is meant to be adapted for different areas and in different languages (and please correct the French before sending it on to French speakers!). <u></u><u></u></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal">send to the FAO COAG Secretariat their letters of support for the IYRP or even commitment to contributing to the IYRP (we can send examples, if you want)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">send visual materials about pastoralism (videoclips, photos etc) for the online “website-booth” that we are setting up because the meeting of the COAG will be virtual, so we cannot have a physical booth
and events in Rome during the week of the meeting - please send the materials to Barbara Hutchinson (<a href="mailto:BarbaraH@cals.arizona.edu" target="_blank">BarbaraH@cals.arizona.edu</a>) or me<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal">join the regional groups that are being set up to prepare for the IYRP (in the hopes that it will be approved by the COAG on 2 October) - Maryam Niamir (<a href="mailto:mniafull2@gmail.com" target="_blank">mniafull2@gmail.com</a>)
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