<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">Dear Francesca,</font><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">For some reason unknown to me, I received neither your mail of 5 January nor Barry’s reply of 7 January, which appear to have been sent to the mailing list of the IYRP Global Coordination Group. I just checked, and I am still in that mailing list.</font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">The idea of getting museums to make exhibitions on mobile pastoralism is something that Barbara and I investigated in Berlin and I investigated (together with a professor for tropical animal husbandry) here in Göttingen. In both cases, it was not possible - in the first case, because the museum was not interested and in the second case because the museum expected us to pay anywhere from 70,000 to 300,000 Euro, depending on the size of the exhibition area.</font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">I fear it will not be so easy to convince museums to make exhibitions on mobile pastoralism unless we know someone in the museum or its advisory board who is particularly passionate about the topic and can convince the museum hierarchy that it is worthwhile investing its resources in such an exhibition. But, where we do have these connections, we could try.</font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">And I think that all forms of pastoralism, according to the definition in our glossary (<a href="https://www.iyrp.info/sites/default/files/2025-01/Glossary_pastoralism-rangelands_people-institutions-2024.pdf" class="">https://www.iyrp.info/sites/default/files/2025-01/Glossary_pastoralism-rangelands_people-institutions-2024.pdf</a>), should be included:</font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; color: rgb(84, 84, 84);" class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><i class="">A land-use and livestock-production system in which the animals are grazed and watered using primarily natural resources. The people practising pastoralism depend primarily on these animals for their livelihood; they organise their socioeconomic activities to make productive and sustainable use of highly variable and dispersed resources (pasture, water, natural minerals) over a wide area of land by moving their animals. Pastoralism tends to avoid the use of external inputs, e.g. fossil fuels, synthetic chemicals (IPES-Food 2016).</i></font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">Cheers,</font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">Ann</font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class="">PS <b class=""><i class="">Barry</i></b>: I hope that Canadian ranchers recognise themselves in the above definition, even though fossil fuels are surely used for transport by pastoralists in Canada - as by pastoralists in many other parts of the world.</font></div><div class=""><font face="HelveticaNeue" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""> <div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 18 Jan 2025, at 11:06 AM, Francesca Pasetti <<a href="mailto:fpasettib@gmail.com" class="">fpasettib@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">Dear Barry,</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""><div dir="auto" class="">I thank you a lot for your long and detailed answer.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I see from your message, that I must have expressed myself not in the best way</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">My proposal is not to speak "badly" on any livestock keeping form, but to realise an exposition, to be shown in all countries, in English and local language on:</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">-what is pastoralism</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">-importance of rangelands and their recuperation or preservation</div><div dir="auto" class=""> </div><div dir="auto" class="">- importance of mobile pastoralism in many parts of the world, for biodiversity preservation </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">- different kinds of pastoralism in the whole world</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">- high value of pastoralists products (omega 3,....etc) to help pastoralists to continue having the income they need to continue existing</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">-.....etc all required to achieve all IYRP goal</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Kindly</div><br class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mar, 7 ene 2025, 18:31, Barry Irving <<a href="mailto:birving@ualberta.ca" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">birving@ualberta.ca</a>> escribió:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Francesca;<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think there is some cause for caution here. I am not in on a promotion that separates things into us and them. Mostly because I believe in the axiom "I have seen the enemy and they are me". There is so much grey around what a negative land use is and where that line can be drawn that maybe we should not be drawing it at all. Canada, and I am reluctant to make this statement, is an industrial agricultural production nation. Canadian agriculture has a history of finding the economic optimum, with a major focus on the economic. In a recent evaluation of the sustainability of food and food delivery systems by the Economist magazine (which I think could be viewed as somewhat independent) Canada's system was ranked number 1. That evaluation included economic and environmental sustainability. That leads me to believe that industrial is not always bad. My wife and I have now worked with about 100 large ranches in western Canada on livestock water solutions. Some are more industrial than others and all are industrial compared to the production systems we have seen on some of our travels. Does being industrial mean these 100 ranches are not sustainable? I do not believe that is so. They have adapted their systems to meet their own situations. They will need to continually adapt.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So, when we do promotions, let's consider sticking to the positive side of any land use, and steer clear of the us versus them type of discussion. Because, maybe when we paint another part of the agricultural production spectrum (and we all sit somewhere on that continuum) as bad (them), we are also painting ourselves into that same picture.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Barry Irving</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 5, 2025 at 9:47 AM Francesca Pasetti <<a href="mailto:fpasettib@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">fpasettib@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Dear IYRP GCG<br class="">First of all I would like to wish you a Happy New Year and hope that you and your loved ones are doing well.<br class=""><br class="">During my recent Christmas holidays I was in Munich (Germany) with all my children and grandchildren and visited the "<a href="https://www.deutsches-museum.de/en/museum/press/press-kit/press-releases/who-we-are" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"></span>Deutsches Museum</a>", which as you know is one of the largest and most visited scientific museums in Germany.<br class=""><br class="">There was a room with scientific recent university research on legumes to replace meat.<br class="">I was very sad to see that the message was against all forms of livestock farming, as there is absolutely no awareness of the difference between industrial and extensive livestock farming.</div><div class=""><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></span></div><div class="">My proposal is this:</div><div class=""><br class="">As we have in IYRP a very solid scientific group of people, with the support of several UN organisations, we should be able to propose to all the (big) museums of the world, the most visited ones, to realise a temporary exposition from 2025 and throughout the whole year of 2026, on Pastoralism. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think we have already collected enough excellent material (films, pictures and general international information) to realise an excellent exposition to be proposed in all the museums of the world that we can reach and that can host this kind of information.<br class="">In Vienna, I think some of you may have visited the excellent Camels exhibition that the World Museum is hosting throughout 2024.</div><div class=""><br class="">We absolutely need to reach with our IYRP message this kind of museums of the most visited cities of the world, if possible at least in almost all countries where pastoralism is still alive and very important to be supported.</div><div class="">What do you think?</div><div class=""><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Kind regards</span></div><div class=""><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Francesca</span></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div class=""><div class="">Francesca Pasetti Bombardella </div><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:x-small" class="">Co-chair Regional <a href="https://iyrp.info/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">IYRP </a> Support Group Europe </span></div><div class=""><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:x-small" class="">Focal Point Spain Nomination </span><span style="font-size:x-small" class="">Transhumance UNESCO ICH</span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-size:x-small" class="">International Projects Coordinator Fundación Trashumancia y Naturaleza - Spain</span><span style="font-size:x-small" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><font size="1" class="">Coordinator Programma TRE Terre Rurali d'Europa<span style="font-size:small" class=""> - </span>Spain</font></div><div class=""><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; vertical-align: baseline;" class=""><font size="1" class=""><font face="Helvetica" class="">S</font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="">ecretary of the Transhumance and Transition UNESCO Club</span></font></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><font size="1" class=""><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">Facilitator of the ERASMUS + “Eco-</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">TransH</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0pt; font-family: Helvetica; vertical-align: baseline;" class="">” project</span></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><font size="1" class="">Email: <a href="mailto:fpasettib@gmail.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">fpasettib@gmail.co</a>m</font></div></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><img width="96" height="62" src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4zT-u0jJahxOsWmlS4o_mFQso71Va5XVvO1cvmJlZlfOZuEP_e2_6Hy-0c3ym-ZEkCDZr6u9Ml2NxjX" class=""><font size="1" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class=""></div></div></div><div class=""><img class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br class="">
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